Last Month the Japanese try to retrive this mod a little bit more. They played in the at 2pm CET. At the moment the gametracker,com Server Monitorring is off. Hope soon they turn it on. The ranking seems to work.
Registered Member #78 Joined: [ 18:27 ] [ 13 Mar 2004 ]
You can have as many buttons as Logitech or whoever wishes to put on their mice, and it's extremely easy to customize button settings, including different actions for different applications/games, etc. The "standard" PC mouse has 3 buttons and scroll. The Mighty Mouse has 4 buttons, and a mini-trackball thingy instead of the up/down wheel. (Which is kickass in Photoshop ) I'd say its function in a nice form.
Registered Member #727 Joined: [ 10:25 ] [ 12 Nov 2004 ]
jahoovenator wrote ...
you cant have 8 buttons on a mac mouse, and macs are form over function.
Twisted already said everything there is to say, I just want to point out that I'm using a Logitech MX 1000 with eight buttons right now on my Mac. Well, actually I'm using the keyboard, but I will use it to click the "Reply" button soon.
What about Macs make you think they lack in the function department?
Registered Member #334 Joined: [ 20:26 ] [ 27 May 2004 ]
8 cores would be wow for a normal user, im NOT impressed, the Motherboard is a SERVER motherboard, and so are the processors. Those processors fit macs quite well tho as they are made for stability and not mainly performance, the server motherboard is why it has the ability to use 32 gigs of ram.
I am not saying that it gives poor performance, because it doesn't. I am saying that it is price pressing and unnecessary for a regular user who wants a performance computer to buy a server processor powered mac. a good regular user mac for that price could ship with awesome x38 chipset motherboards or why not even an nvidia 700 series mobo with tripple graphics card setup availability, with cards in all slots, and then a core2 extreme instead of those server processors would give better performance for games, as not many if any public released games utilize more than 4 cores, which makes 8 cores pointless for games.
mac pro is NOT in any way a gaming machine, its a VERY qualified MEDIA machine, awesome for rendering, unzipping stuff and general mass calculations and multi-multi threading.
Twisted, i quote myself "no no you cant have the ability to open up a mac and replace anything." - what i ment was that you cannot change each and every part of the mac, you can replace and change stuff but you are limited.
Sure, nice default buildup inside the mac pros but theres still issues if you like to modify the intestines, such as airflow and room. The macs have nice cablage settings for everything to be simple but for a fairly advanced computer builder who has bough a quite nice chassi, this is no big deal to counter as you do the cablage your own customized way. so the macs default buildup is no good defense in my opinion.
Guess what? theres a million people just like you who owns a mac that looks EXACTLY the same, which makes it quite much... not unique and cool, there is no computer on this earth with the exact same hardware and looks as mine, a computer IS more personal than a mac.
And jabbering about how damn good iTunes is? i dont give a damn if they ported iTunes for the PC, i tested it and i did not like it. I am not interested in the iTunes store, if i want an mp3 file ill download it, if an Mp3 is good enough, i buy the retail CD that is worth the price. my X-Fi card with awesome even cm exact volume adjustments for how far away each and every one of your speakers are from you, in combination with Winamp which has all i need, libraries quick listings, search functions, OU's, the equalizer that i dont use etc, i do not need anything else, so what is it that makes iTunes superior?
and your still saying how good it works, sure it works well and you need not know much to keep it that way. but if you know how to handle your computer in a good way i bet that my windows xp works JUST as good or better than your flashy OSX, there are patches for default theme change for windows so theres no performance hunch compared to the OSX's looks/performance.
if you say the pc in general has a worse inside build than the mac then you have not owned a good screwless computer chassi, if you build it carefully and well planned, there is supposed to be no way that you can say the build is not perfect for later modifications. and whats with the HDD slides that is so good? my hdd cables are not visible either, they go up under a metalplate and right into the hdd on one side and right into the motherboard on the other, and yes, they do have slides.
why in the world would macs ship "performance" iMacs with shitty 2600pro graphics cards for highres 24" screens as default? that is NOT performance, at least not if you really want to play a game in that full resolution.
i can promise you, cochrane, that if you have a full chassi mac, i bet you my machine is more quiet, dont blaim computers for being "noisy" as it's up to the user to make it quiet, thats why we buy good chassies and cooling sollutions with inner plate paddings and stuff like that, to make the noise drop.
My computer looks good, does barely sound, and is better than your mac, for a lower price than if you buy a mac for the same price that i put my computer together with.
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[ 15:30 ] [ 10 Jan 2008 ]
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lols macs fail for me cuz u sometimes can't download mods cuz macs can't run .exe files. or do they, cuz i ain't very updated with the latest mac features
Registered Member #727 Joined: [ 10:25 ] [ 12 Nov 2004 ]
Teabag, I'm not going to reply to every single sentence, just the general feeling: You have an awful lot of "careful", "well planned", "advanced", "well maintained" and similar words in your post.
Fact of the matter is: to get a PC to be even close to as good as a Mac as far usability or hardware design are concerned, you have to spend an awful amount of time and work. Why would you need to modify airflow in a Mac Pro? It's better optimized than in 99% of the PCs, including gaming PCs, you'll ever find. If you have the one percent that has better airflow, more power to you. But that you have the time, skill and interest to pull this off makes you part of a very, very small minority. And don't get me started on money. If you put a monetary value on all the work you put in the computer, then a Mac might well be cheaper, depending on how much you charge yourself per hour of work. Thanks to my laziness, my number for that is so high that a Mac makes sense for me. If it isn't for you, no problem. I just have a feeling that there are more people on my side than on yours, they just don't know it yet.
In a way, it's like those people saying Linux is better than Mac OS X because you can replace the window manager. Sure, you can do that, and if your life really depends on that ability, then by all means go ahead and buy some random PC and rebuild it to moon-lander specs instead of fucking up a good Mac. However, most people see things differently, and many of them would be happier with a Mac if they only gave it a fair try.
Last but not least: You say your PC looks better than a Mac. I cannot reply to that without insulting you, which I really don't want, so I won't. I just mention it to give you a hint of my feelings on this matter.
Registered Member #334 Joined: [ 20:26 ] [ 27 May 2004 ]
ok saying that my pc looks better was not too mature, i agree with that after thinking about what i wrote, so i apologize if any offense was felt. Every opinion is personal.
What i mean when i say that i optimize my airflow is that i have a custom computer filled with watercooling and many modular parts to optimize my cooling and performance, no matter the fact that i have my computer stuffed with a lot of things it still pushes air like not so many others. The mac has good airflow for default but if you modify your mac it doesn't any longer have the optimized aerodynamics around the computerparts.
My computer is one of my hobbies, if you say that i waste time(money) on optimizing my computer to the utter edge of perfect, its like me saying that you waste time(money) on your programing. We both enjoy doing our hobbies, without getting paid.
you pay apple for an aerodynamic and good chassi build, you pay for the job aswell as the hardware, i do it myself, save money and enjoy doing my hobby, therefor i save money.
i still feel that you say that macs have better performance. Are you referring to the OS or the Hardware? i imagine that you mean the operative. Me using windows XP on my new computer hardware, means that you cannot judge that little difference that is is between those two OS's, even if there is some small performance overtake in OSX.
even if it sounds like it, im not into defending window$, Mac absolutely made a better operating system when it comes to stability, but windows still reign when it comes to compatibility. Why? Windows advertise more, have existed longer (since 12 augusti 1981), has been more widely used. if macs had been released before pc's (first released January 24, 1984), maybe it would have been the todays most used.
if it would have been like that i just might would have been the computer geek who tries to penetrate the mac dominated world.
There is no possibility that i will ever lite Mac's, my thing for computer is mainly being able to do so much with it, hardware wise.
I do not hate the mac, i just don't want one as its functions have no relevance to my interests.
Registered Member #727 Joined: [ 10:25 ] [ 12 Nov 2004 ]
Off Topic: There are some forums where you can see the previous posts below the post box. Makes replying to long interesting posts much easier. If I recall correctly, this forum used to be one of them. Why'd it change?
Me saying that I don't like your PC wasn't mature either. It's a matter of taste.
What I meant with wasting time/money is maybe more: Optimizing hardware is your hobby, and you're correct, if that is your hobby then a Mac is really not the right computer for you. However, it's no hobby of mine (btw, if you talk about me wasting money on hobbies, you should see my model railroad...), so I prefer to buy something that costs a little more, has a little worse performance, but works as I need it to right out of the box. It's just a matter of taste.
As for performance: I can't recall having said that Mac OS X performs better than XP. Like, ever. I don't even have XP on my old PC (Windows 2000 FTW!), so I have no way of comparing. I can guarantee that performance of iTunes is better on a Mac than on a PC, but in general, I'd lie if I said I knew either had better performance than the other, especially on the same hardware.
What I meant with optimization is things like, again, airflow and sound. A random PC I'd somewhere on the street is likely going to be worse in both respects than a Mac. Same goes for access to drives or RAM, or cabling. I don't have the energy to change any of these aspects on a PC myself. Instead, I'll just not use the computer. That's my current strategy, by the way.
Registered Member #78 Joined: [ 18:27 ] [ 13 Mar 2004 ]
TEABAG!!! iMacs don't have HD2600PRO, it's the XT version! We are misinformed by Apple, as it is a slightly underclocked XT card. Chip ID and all says XT. I dont think the Pro would run Crysis very well.
Registered Member #80 Joined: [ 14:01 ] [ 14 Mar 2004 ]
ignoring os, macs are like dell desktops and i would never buy one of them because ur being ripped off for high prices and inferior hardware, same with mac.
I've used both os and i prefer windows much more user friendly and easier to use casually. Any proper non-console gamer wouldn't be caught dead trying to play games on a mac.