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Registered Member #1964 Joined: [ 21:06 ] [ 11 Oct 2007 ]
you CAN drift a SAAB, but it's not REAL! definition: drifting: is the sliding of the vehicle(s) to due overpowered, wheel-traction loss of the rear wheels whislt turning in a controlled, (sometimes artistic) manner. In a FWD, obviously the rear wheels are not powered, so it's not DRIFTING! sure, you're sliding the car's ass end, but it's not (by a drifter's definition of drifting) technically called DRIFTING. but, i see that you agree that front wheel drive is kinda boring...lols!
now, as for outhandling BMW's and such....well, the thing is, you don't have to worry about the rear wheels breaking loose, on (your?) SAAB...unless you apply the e-brake of course! FWD cars will not spin out, they simply push towards the outer edge of the corners like overloaded dumptrucks with bald front tires on rainy days (seen it!). i know because i race a 4 cyl. mustang against a bunch of dodge neons, and honda civics, and other FWD cars on a 3/8 mile oval track....in fact...i'm the only car that CAN break loose in turns, all the others end up in the wall when they go too fast. and I go into the infield (usually, which is better, because i just get a bumpy off-road ride, whilst they face new radiators, and tie-rods and such!). back to the point, it's not just because your FWD, but it could be just because of your driving style/skills as compared to those of the beamer drivers(....car does not represent skill). I drive a 1990 DODGE 1/2 ton RAM pickup-truck, and I pwned a god dang '03 porsche 911 carrera in a off-the-red race to the next light (which was green!). HOW? because i caught him off-guard, and he was too chicken to take the approaching beng at the same speed as me! (on a 2 lane road wtf?) SO! no offense to you in particular, but if you want to drift according to definition (instead of just e-brake sliding), and notice that all HIGH performance sports cars are RWD, or AWD, and all race cars (except for specific FWD-ONLY) classes are all RWD and sometimes AWD (NASCAR, F1's, Indy, Le Mans...etc.)
P.S. if your wondering where i got the definition, i watch Formula D on SPEED channel where they mentioned the definition, and where I race (capital city speedway, Ottawa, ON, (Canada)) we host drifting comp's.....the people who judge the competition are professional's and I HAD asked them what "drifting" is, and they said something fairly similar to what i said, and the only classes of cars allowed are RWD's and (usually rear-wheel-bias) AWD's. proof enough...i would say! And i wasn't sayin nothin bad about SAAB's, i was just saying that i hate the idea of putting them in reverse, instead of 1st gear, to get the key out...it's just weird to ME! but anyway....that's just a little insight as to my mind on things about FWD's
Registered Member #334 Joined: [ 20:26 ] [ 27 May 2004 ]
rabb, i was reffering the the whole series of saab vehicles when it comes to looks. I havent seen a good face lift until now when they released their "chrome" lined headlights, and deformed breaklights. and NO you cant do a real drift in a saab, as slim said.
with backwheel drifting you controll the slide with the frontwheels and how much/broad you spin with the backwheels power, fourwheel drive is very clear on handling drifts so i need not defend those.
i would like to see a LONG frontwheel drive drift, or a series of drifts through multiple curves in combination, or a very broad drift, for me to believe that a frontwheel powered car can make a real drift. You cannot easly in any way control the whole vehicle with the front tires only as you cannot controll the backtires of the saab very well in a long drift now can you?
SLIM!! i wanna know how you made you dodge RAM weight 1/2 tons (i know its a typo but it was quite funny)
Registered Member #1964 Joined: [ 21:06 ] [ 11 Oct 2007 ]
lol....it doesn't weigh a 1/2 ton, it's a 1/2-ton class pickup-truck (way back when, these pickups could carry a 1/2 ton, and the 3/4tons could carry 3/4 of a ton....so on and so forth....) but i think you knew that....if not...well some handy information to know....lol
Registered Member #334 Joined: [ 20:26 ] [ 27 May 2004 ]
yeah, actualy i didn't know that at all, i think theres some differense in american and european systems. here they dont say the max weight the car can carry, here its about how much width and length the stuff has, and how much your car and cargo weights together. in sweden a B drivers license allows you to drive a car that weights (with any kind of cargo or attachment) a max of 3.5 tons.
Registered Member #1964 Joined: [ 21:06 ] [ 11 Oct 2007 ]
our license system is similar in some areas (D class is for vehicles with GVWR of over 11,000lbs or kg (can't remember)).
The 1/2-ton, 3/4-ton, and 1-ton pickups don't only carry that much anymore. 1/2-tons can carry as much as 5000lbs now (2 & 1/2 tons) if not more....lol...and 1-tons as much sa 10,000lbs (5 tons...) so it's really just a "classification system" for pickups in the north american market nowadays. but you only need a regualar driver's license to drive any of these....they are not full-sized cube vans (but the cube vans are based mostly on the 1-ton pickup frames.) i can post pics if necessary for explanation but that wouldn't be ckeeping up with the topic of the thread....